It seems that you're saying it's ok to keep killing civilians

Fri 4 Jul, 02:13: Nathan has left a new comment on the post 'Reflections on recent events in the Middle East':

"I think you're still desperate to find excuses for not considering surrender."

It seems that you're saying it's ok to keep killing civilians, until Hamas surrenders. 

Fri 4 Jul, 10:48: Granite has left a new comment on the post 'Reflections on recent events in the Middle East':

Hamas will never surrender bc Israel needs hamas. I mean Israel DID allow oct 7th to happen on purpose. Further, how is it Israel can pinpoint Iran’s leaders with such accuracy, but hamas remains elusive?

OP sounds like a believer or partisan.

Fri 4 Jul, 23:41: Nathan has left a new comment on the post 'Reflections on recent events in the Middle East':

https://mondoweiss.net/2025/07/poll-overwhelming-majority-of-jewish-israelis-share-genocidal-belief-there-are-no-innocent-people-in-gaza/

As usual, you may feel free to discuss moderation decisions over here.

Racist people are often unaware

Nathan said...

Racist people are often unaware. And if you want to avoid being called racist, don't use racist terminology. It's not wild or illogical to call out racism, when racist terms are used. It is by definition racist.
Don't pretend you understand my emotions, you have never met me.

Can I ask, what proof you would need of genocide, and how do you know it isn't happening.
At what point does it become genocide?

At what point do you think enough has been done?

21/06/2025, 07:43 

Nathan said...

Why doesn't this logic: "it would be reasonable to not be prepared to leave it as a risk."
Extend to genocide?

21/06/2025, 07:45

You seem to share the view as with other right wing idealogues...

Nathan has left a new comment on the post 'Polling Pales':

 "Unfortunately their opinions - at least as expressed by this poll - do not point towards anything peaceful"

Perhaps you have a very narrow point of view. I am sure they would love to live in peace, like anyone else.
You should also consider the demographics of the area. I would think the polling is not very representative of the majority, given more than 40% are under 18.

Also, given the specific nature of the question (regarding the relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia) you are extrapolating a long way to hatred and 'not anything peaceful'

But given your appreciation of the complexity of this conflict and your reference to jerks like Richard Hanania it's not surprising.

How you can consider what Israel is doing as contributing to peace I cannot understand. You seem to share the view (as with other right wing idealogues) that as soon as someone is labelled terrorist you can murder your way to success. It's just messed up.

WMC: You'll need to think a bit about why this got spammed before posting more. If you have questions, you should ask them here.

And another:

Nathan has left a new comment on the post 'Polling Pales':

"It does seem that these people are motivated by hatred"
This is racism. You need to work on this.
Stop promoting racist ideas

You're a lazy racist who indulges in victim blaming

 Nathan has left a new comment on the post 'The parable of the Antheap and the Anteater':

Your appeasement of genocide is ugly.
You're a lazy racist who indulges in victim blaming.
How dare you blame children for Hamas.

How can you say people deserve to die because they won't repudiate terrorism.
What sort of logic is this??

Who are you, that you can blame people for the faults of others and say they deserve to be starved to death.

Nathan has left a new comment on the post 'The parable of the Antheap and the Anteater':

So how many were there?

These are the numbers

"At least 112 people died and 760 were injured on Thursday when desperate crowds gathered to collect flour."

You live in some sort of fucked up fantasy land, where quibbling about exact numbers makes for rational discussion.

As we say in Australia: You're a dickhead, pull your head in

Any point of view that accepts starving people to death deliberately as a fair outcome is pretty fucked up

Nathan has left a new comment on the post 'The parable of the Antheap and the Anteater':

"The people who do need such courage are the Palestinians, and sadly they appear to either lack it, or worse lack the desire to repudiate Hamas, or the dead hand of their history."

I am amazed by your lack of campassioon, unwillingness to acknowledge history and your blatant racism when discussing this issue.

Your racism needs to be called out, especially as you use it to justify the actions of the Israelis.

Here's some classic examples:

Arabs hate Jews... Racist and not-provable

Arabs can't form stable Governemnts... Racist and obviously wrong

Muslim Faith leaders cannot comment on morality.... Racist and not-provable

Egypt should accommodate Palestinian Refugees (with an emphasis on blaming them for not volunteering... Basically racist and ignores the obvious

Palestinians are responsible for the actions of Hamas... Racist and supporting war crimes.

I probably get that you don't understand the racism, but it pretty obvious.
Especially, when you tone police your blog, while at the same time promote racist writers.

lastly this: This is not true; as so often, the desire to speak words and be noticed isn't matched by a commitment to reality.

Is total denial of reality - there were almost 1000 casualties, there was clearly thousands of people attempting to get food, and the Israelis clearly fired at them.

Just to keep the spirit of your valetes

Anonymous said...

Re Victor Venema, just to keep the spirit of your valetes to dead climate "scientists", good riddance to the thin-skinned, xenophobic, ridiculously politically correct tosser! He won't be missed by many people

01/01/2023, 15:28 

So surprised you haven't posted a heageography

Graeme said...

So surprised you haven't posted a heageography of hoaxer-in-chief Sir John Houghton. Are you slacking? Or is living the preferred eco lifestyle getting to you?

22/04/2020, 20:54

To which I reply: oh, FFS, can't you idiots even manage to spell hagiography correctly?

Congress is Pissed

Or so says CIP. This is vis-a-vis Mueller vs Trump. I said:

In Merrie Englande, "pissed" means drunk. Having said that...

I think Mueller is belatedly realised he kinda fucked up and now wants a second go. But what to make of "Mueller explained that his decision was based on longstanding justice department policy, rather than lack of evidence. “A president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office,” he said. “That is unconstitutional. Even if the charge is kept under seal and hidden from public view – that too is prohibited.”" (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/29/mueller-says-trump-was-not-exonerated-by-his-investigation). That sounds like bollox to me. Plenty of people (waves hands vaguely) were fully expecting and hoping that Mueller would indeed charge The Mango; only *now* claiming there is a clear policy not to do so sounds like excuse making.

Congress has I think got using to buying cheap popularity with pork and ducking hard decisions, which is why so much power has bled away to the presidency. This is not what your founders intended.