Tuesday, 26 May 2015

The sad tales of the Wikipedia gang war regarding WUWT – ‘creepy and a little scary’?

I tried talking a bit; see an archive.

One of my comments made it through:

 * Hello dahlings. How’s the paper coming along?

And so did another; and a third. But after that, things dried up, with the appallingly dangerous:

  wuwt-unpublished left which went unpublished so far, as well as at least one other. Well, glasnost was only going to last so long.

[Update: now published, it looks like. So they're just slow.]

Unlike the comment just after, which I've highlighted, which clearly met all the WUWT comment guidelines. At least, the unofficial ones which are actually implemented - the "official" ones are meaningless, of course.

A little later...

wuwt-in-moderation

Monday, 25 May 2015

Sorry, gotta run, PBS Antiques Roadshow is on the telly

A new comment on the post "Agricultural land value as a percentage of GDP" 
http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2015/05/13/agricultural-land-value-as-a-percentage-of-gdp/

Author: Everett F Sargent
Bernard J.,

Don't go there because:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideology

Combine those two and you get (made up):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiotolatry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiotology

If humanity could just get past those two issues, religious and ideological beliefs, just imagine what we all could accomplish.

But don't forget VALUE, everything is predicated based on VALUE.  Or is VALUE an assumption or a priori/a posteriori premises or a herd mentality predicated on humanity competing for things, via say auctions, and people shouting in stock markets, etceteras:

http://www.aol.com/article/2015/05/06/van-gogh-s-painting-sells-for-66m-nearly-six-times-its-2003-pr/21180474/

(the materials in that painting are worth like $0.99 at the dollar store)

I'm pretty sure during the Great Depression most people were satisfied with just trying to just meet their basic needs, food, clothing and shelter, we're no longer in a Great Depression, however it would appear that a few billion humans still would like to obtain those very basic needs.

I'm not in 'it' to win 'it' but most people appear to be of that, err disposition.  When people lose faith in an economic system (of governance) you get zombies.

Are we all just flying dinosaurs collecting shiny things, and if so, to what end.  Presumably to collect even more shiny things.

Sorry, gotta run, PBS Antiques Roadshow is on the telly.

Monday, 16 March 2015

What is the sensitivity?

A new comment on the post "Currygate and wikipedia" is waiting for your approval
http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2015/03/13/currygate-and-wikipedia/

Author : PlanetaryPhysicsGroup (but really, its Doug Cotton again)
Comment:
 

<b>What is the sensitivity for each 1% of the most prolific "greenhouse gas" (namely water vapor) in Earth's atmosphere?</b>

To help any of you answer the question, here are some facts:

<b>Fact 1:</b>  Water vapor absorbs a significant amount of incident solar radiation as shown <a href="https://www.google.com.au/search?q=solar+absorption+spectrum+images&amp;biw=1920&amp;bih=989&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbo=u&amp;source=univ&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=Yv8FVYXhAYvo8AXsyoLgAg&amp;ved=0CDEQ7Ak#imgdii=_&amp;imgrc=nZPQWcmcfvv7rM%253A%3BZsBVhE4WQrQ-5M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fupload.wikimedia.org%252Fwikipedia%252Fcommons%252F4%252F4c%252FSolar_Spectrum.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FAir_mass_(solar_energy)%3B800%3B595" rel="nofollow">here</a>. The atmosphere absorbs about 20% of incident solar radiation and that absorbing is not by nitrogen, oxygen or argon. (Carbon dioxide also absorbs incident photons in the 2.1 micron range which each have about 5 times the energy of 10 micron photons coming up from the surface.  On Venus over 97% of the energy from incident solar radiation is retained in carbon dioxide molecules.)

<b>Fact 2:</b>  The concentration of water vapor varies between about 1% and 4%.  (The concentration of carbon dioxide above Mauna Loa is 0.04% and, as <a href="http://americantraditions.org/Articles/Positive%20Proof%20that%20Carbon%20Dioxide%20(CO2)%20Is%20Not%20a%20Driver%20of%20Global%20Warming.htm" rel="nofollow">this</a> graph shows, temperatures there have not increased since 1959.)

<b>Fact 3:</b>  The IPCC claims that water vapor does nearly all of "33 degrees of warming" of Earth's surface.  It must do most of it because it dominates CO2 in concentration and also in the number of frequency bands in which it absorbs and radiates.  But in fact water vapor lowers the "lapse rate" so that the temperature profile rotates downwards at the surface end, making the surface cooler.  (In fact, as per my <a href="http://www.climate-change-theory.com/Planetary_Core_and_Surface_Temperatures.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a>, there is no 33 degrees of warming being done by any back radiation because it is gravity which props up the surface end of the temperature profile.)

When you have answered the question, work out how much hotter the IPCC conjecture implies a region with 4% water vapor would be than a similar region with 1% water vapor at a similar altitude and latitude. Then look up the study in the Appendix of my <a href="http://www.climate-change-theory.com/Planetary_Core_and_Surface_Temperatures.pdf" rel="nofollow">paper</a> and see what real world data tells us about how water vapor cools rather than warms.  And if you don't believe my study, then spend half a day doing your own.

Finally, note that it is quite clear in the energy diagram <a href="http://climate-change-theory.com/PSI.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> and the text I wrote beneath it that they have certainly added 324W/m^2 of back radiation to 168W/m^2 of solar radiation in order to use this in Stefan Boltzmann calculations to determine the temperature of the surface.  Obviously they worked out by difference what the back radiation figure had to be and made it 66% greater than the 195W/m^2 of upward radiation from the atmosphere to space.  They need not have bothered, because their whole paradigm is wrong, because they ignored the fact that the Second Law of Thermodynamics tells us that gravity forms the temperature and density gradients - which represent the state of thermodynamic equilibrium.

Monday, 2 March 2015

Why would anyone credit

A new comment on the post "Exit Pachi, pursued by no-one"
http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2015/02/25/exit-pachi-pursued-by-no-one/
Author : Brad Keyes
Comment:


Steve,
Sorry mate, but this is laughable:
<blockquote>Keyes, I think Dr. Connolley is generally preferred in these circumstances.</blockquote>I'm laughing. You've made me laugh.

Why would anyone credit what "[you] think" on the subject of contemporary social mores among humans when your concept of etiquette begins with calling me "Keyes"? ROFL

As for your suggestion that our gracious host is such an insecure mediocrity that he'd actually insist, with a straight face, in 2015, that everyone who visits his <i>blog</i> validate his supposed completion of a PhD on an unknown subject—though he doesn't even see fit to mention this anywhere else on the page!—well, what can I say, Steve? <i><b>Nobody</i></b> could be as pompous as that. And (a posteriori) they're NOT, are they? Look around. <i><b>Nobody on this page</i></b> typed "Dr. Connolley" until you did, Steve. Not even our host. Who signs his blog 'William Connolley.'

Yes, you're the epitome of class

A new comment on the post "rigorously eschewing the unfortunate ad hominem arguments that too often characterize public “debate” about human-caused climate change"
http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2015/02/24/rigorously-eschewing-the-unfortunate-ad-hominem-arguments-that-too-often-characterize-public-debate-about-human-caused-climate-change/

Author : Tom Fuller
Comment:


Yes, you're the epitome of class and hence entitled to lecture others on the subject.

Censored again!

A new comment on the post "rigorously eschewing the unfortunate ad hominem arguments that too often characterize public “debate” about human-caused climate change" 
http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2015/02/24/rigorously-eschewing-the-unfortunate-ad-hominem-arguments-that-too-often-characterize-public-debate-about-human-caused-climate-change/
Author : Tom Fuller 

Comment:
Censored again!  Bye Cunnelly